Comments on: An Angel Loses Its Wings http://puckbuddys.com/2013/08/25/an-angel-loses-its-wings/ Boys Who Like Boys Who Like Hockey Wed, 09 Oct 2013 20:03:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Ansar http://puckbuddys.com/2013/08/25/an-angel-loses-its-wings/#comment-4765 Thu, 29 Aug 2013 04:58:18 +0000 http://puckbuddys.com/?p=10876#comment-4765 By the way, muslim hockey players (and fans as well) do exist. Nazem Kadri of the Toronto Maple Leafs is a Canadian of Lebanese descent and is Muslim.

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By: Ansar http://puckbuddys.com/2013/08/25/an-angel-loses-its-wings/#comment-4764 Thu, 29 Aug 2013 04:28:05 +0000 http://puckbuddys.com/?p=10876#comment-4764 So jfk, what would do if a muslim NHL hockey player said “I believe in Islam, that says it all”? Homosexuality is a sin in Islam. In some muslim countries, you can get a lengthy jail sentence or the death penalty for anything that goes against the teachings of the Quran…that is if some devout muslims don’t decide to take matters into their own hands and get to you first. I’m not even making this up: see what happened to that UK soldier recently?

I see here that since g11 has posted his comments on muslim countries anti-gay stance, none of you are willing to tackle that issue because Islam is a dominant religion and has more followers than any other religions right now.

If you liked Ovechkin’s no comment (and other sports figures too), then it means you love being lied to. But that’s okay, that’s how Obama got elected.

I agree with g11. Being PC nowadays is being full of bullshit.

Allahu Akbar – Allah is the Greatest

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By: jfk http://puckbuddys.com/2013/08/25/an-angel-loses-its-wings/#comment-4763 Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:33:25 +0000 http://puckbuddys.com/?p=10876#comment-4763 Don’t.

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By: jfk http://puckbuddys.com/2013/08/25/an-angel-loses-its-wings/#comment-4761 Thu, 29 Aug 2013 01:28:56 +0000 http://puckbuddys.com/?p=10876#comment-4761 I’m curious as to what you consider “hateful” comments on Datsyuk, considering you just agreed with g11′s comment, which went pretty far over the line imo.

I’m a bit confused about when you talk about using neutral words like “religion” to talk about Islam, when that is accurate because Islam is a religion? Not being snarky or anything, just hoping for some clarification. But in any case, I understand and respect being religious (though I imagine everyone uses their judgement and choice on what to actually follow/practice to the letter, otherwise there’d be even more horrific stonings then what currently happen due to passages in the bible), and even having the fear of facing repercussions when going back home for showing support, which is why I like Ovechkin’s (non)answer.

As for this: “Datsyuk said he believed in the Russian Orthodox Church. He said nothing at all about supporting anti-gay propaganda laws in Russia. You are inferring whatever you what to hear from his very vague statement.” Yes, his vague statement supporting the Russian Orthodox Church, which came out with a statement supporting the law because the LGBTQ would bring about the apocalypse. And it is the law that is the problem. Believing and practicing your religion is great until its being used to (force the religion on others who aren’t the same one) enforce laws that are resulting in dead, assaulted, forcibly outed, and imprisoned LGBTQ and allies for even showing support for the gay community via words or signs, or being at risk for rainbow colored nailpolish.

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By: Carolina http://puckbuddys.com/2013/08/25/an-angel-loses-its-wings/#comment-4759 Wed, 28 Aug 2013 02:26:06 +0000 http://puckbuddys.com/?p=10876#comment-4759 I agree with g11 and Neil. The moment you start to talk about Islamic countries that have anti-gays laws, people start using neutral term like “religion” and “religious beliefs” instead of pointing to Islam itself because they know that it could be interpreted as blasphemy and that could carry a jail sentence or even the death penalty in some of those countries.

Datsyuk is such an easy target in this case. It’s so easy to attack his faith in the orthodox church. The same people who write hateful comments on him will have a much harder time if he was muslim.

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By: Neil http://puckbuddys.com/2013/08/25/an-angel-loses-its-wings/#comment-4757 Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:15:36 +0000 http://puckbuddys.com/?p=10876#comment-4757 This is a response to Keil Anderson’s: you claim that there is NO racism and sexism at all in the LGBT community? I think g11 has a point here: you’re the one being voluntarily blind. Let me make it easy for you, run a web search on “Racism in the LGBT community” (for example) and get the real life stories.

Datsyuk said he believed in the Russian Orthodox Church. He said nothing at all about supporting anti-gay propaganda laws in Russia. You are inferring whatever you what to hear from his very vague statement. Context is also crucial in his case: he’s got a lot more to lose in his homeland than any of us. He also stated that he wanted to retire and go back home to his family and friends in Russia, albeit safely.

Before you judge a man based on one statement and clearly, without empathy about his social context, look at his overall achievements and community work. He works with local charities in Detroit, the Children’s Wish Foundation in US (check their website) as well as running a youth hockey school in Yekaterinburg.

By the way, a very good point has been brought up here: I’m very curious to know your stance on Islam and homosexuality. If an NHL hockey player gave a similar answer to Datsyuk, like “I believe in Islam, that says it all”, would you react the exact same way? There are currently at least two well known NHL players who are of Muslim faith and one of them is a Leafs: Kadri.

For my part, I respect Pavel Datsyuk because I can take a few steps back and look at the overall picture, because I do not walk in his shoes.

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By: angry hockey faggot http://puckbuddys.com/2013/08/25/an-angel-loses-its-wings/#comment-4755 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:24:05 +0000 http://puckbuddys.com/?p=10876#comment-4755 Thanks.
Datsyuk is a classless piece of shit for what he thinks of us. And a coward for hiding behind religion.
Fans who find excuses for him are pathetic morons for placing their fandom above basic human decency.
Sports journalists are disappointing as usual, the wear and tear of victimizing rapist & murderer star athletes every week definitely hampers their ability to call a player out for a backhanded homophobic comment.

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By: mikeshoro http://puckbuddys.com/2013/08/25/an-angel-loses-its-wings/#comment-4753 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:54:12 +0000 http://puckbuddys.com/?p=10876#comment-4753 In all fairness, “fucking self-centered , hedonistic degenerate” is my middle name.

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By: Doug http://puckbuddys.com/2013/08/25/an-angel-loses-its-wings/#comment-4752 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:57:10 +0000 http://puckbuddys.com/?p=10876#comment-4752 As a rule, we generally don’t allow abusive dimwits to post their bile and have it masquerade as a “comment.” In this case, however, it serves to illustrate exactly the point being made by Shoro. Oh, and then there’s the irony of someone leaving an anonymous hate pile accusing the author WITH HIS NAME ON IT of hiding.

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By: Keil Anderson http://puckbuddys.com/2013/08/25/an-angel-loses-its-wings/#comment-4750 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 04:34:11 +0000 http://puckbuddys.com/?p=10876#comment-4750 I’m disappointed in him as a human being. If he feels his religious views are more important than the rights of others, he doesn’t understand that his freedom of religion only means that he can practice whatever religion he wants without fear of prosecution. It doesn’t give him, or others that practice his faith, the right to impose their beliefs on anyone. Imposing religious beliefs on others goes against the freedom of religion.

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